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Is agentic coding like ClaudeCode / Codex the only direction we need?

I’m starting this thread because agentic coding is getting a lot of attention, but I’m not sure it should be the only direction we focus on. The JEV post https://towardsdatascience.com/an-introduction-to-jev/ suggests there may be another useful way of thinking about AI-assisted work, and I suspect we also need a few supporting practices.

What I’m trying to decide

  • Should we treat agentic coding as the main path?
  • Is JEV a complementary direction, or just a framing for the same problem?
  • What other practices should sit alongside these, such as evaluation, human review, or workflow design?

Possible directions

Direction What it adds Open question
Agentic coding More autonomy, repeated actions, task completion When does it become too much autonomy?
JEV A different way of thinking about AI-assisted decisions How does it change day-to-day practice?
Evaluation More trust in outputs What should we evaluate for real projects?
Human review Accountability and judgment Where is the right level of human involvement?

A simple model

flowchart TD
    A["AI-assisted coding"] --> B["Agentic coding"]
    A --> C["JEV"]
    A --> D["Evaluation"]
    A --> E["Human review"]
    B --> F["Automation"]
    C --> G["Practical judgment"]
    D --> H["Trust"]
    E --> I["Accountability"]

A quick decision rule

if task is well-scoped and repeatable:
    try agentic coding

if task is ambiguous or high-impact:
    add JEV-style thinking, evaluation, and human review

Questions for the thread

  • Is agentic coding enough on its own?
  • Does JEV fill a gap that agentic coding misses?
  • What other directions should we add to the list?
  • What are we seeing in practice that still feels missing?

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